This is a free, commercial mail list (Sweet Maria's foots the bill to host this list), but you do not have
to be a customer to join or participate:
In brief here's the list rules, which
you agree to by subscribing to the list, (further
explanations are below):
- No outside commercial posts or
solicitations - we do not allow outside commercial posts of any kind. This
includes regular emails with commercial references, URLs, addresses or 800
numbers of products.*
- No intentionally offensive language
or posts - NO PROFANITY! Don't type anything that you would not say out loud
- that is a good rule of thumb.
- No posts detrimental to our business
- Politeness and netiquette to
other list members & the list administrator (that's me) is required.
Feel free to disagree, but do it politely.
- "Bad Faith" posting or "Baiting";
this list is for people who say what they mean, not for those who want
to purposefully antagonize. If the list administrator feels a person consistently
posts statements in "bad faith" then they will be removed from the list.
- Off topic posting is discouraged,
but if it is a spinoff of a coffee-related thread, please use the subject
line convention "OT". OT is meant, as they say on the stage, as an "aside."
People who consistently start off topic threads or don't properly label
off topic threads are due for removal from the list. OT threads that have
political, religious or other flashpoint topics and have the intent to
antagonize will result in the removal of the poster.
- (List removal note: don't assume
you have been removed from the list for any reason. 99 out of 100 times
you are removed from the list due to email bouncing back to the list server.
If you are removed for a reason, you will be notified why. Yes, you can
re-join the list if removeal is the result of some misunderstanding).
- Other folks in the coffee trade
may join, but please email me personally before attempting to join to introduce
Please communicate with me, Tom,
personally at tom-at-sweetmarias.com if
you ever have questions about the rules, or if something you want to post
conflicts with them.
WE DO NOT SELL, TRADE OR SHARE
To Join The List
You must subscribe yourself
to the list ...we can't do it for you. You must also unsubscribe yourself from
the list, so bookmark this page!
As of January 1 2001 we
have a new engine that runs the list. Follow this link to subscribe to the list:
To Unjoin The List
See the instructions below
to get to your Personal Settings Page.
People have complained that our list is hard to unsubscribe from. It is true
that it is not as easy as some mail lists, where you send a simple unsubscribe
command to an email address. But if you bookmark your Personal Setting page (or follow the simple instructions below to re-locate it) and save your password,
it is easy!
We now have a Digest Version
of the HOMEROAST list, as well as an Archive! When you sign up for the list
you can set your subscription to regular (individual emails), Digest (one daily
batch of messages in one email), or you can simply browse the Archive. To subscribe
or make changes in your subscription please go to this web page and follow the
simple instructions there:
members have set up their own digests, archives too:
CoffeeCafes Digest: If
you are interested, you can subscribe by sending a message to firstname.lastname@example.org with the
command in the body of the message: subscribe homeroast It will automatically
set you up for the digest. Responses or posts should still be directed at
the regular list 'email@example.com' . If you have any digest questions
or comments the kind host of the digest is Chris and his email is firstname.lastname@example.org
Archive: There is also a really nice web page archive
of the Sweet Maria's Homeroast List by topic available at the following
link, and courtesy of the Meyers: http://TheMeyers.org/HomeRoast/index.htm
- Also check out the other web-based archive http://schwani.dynodns.net/ offered by Richard Schwaninger
- Changing from regular
list to digest: see below
|Important! Your Personal Setting Page:
Unsubscribing, changing from Regular Membership to Digest,
setting to receive NO MAIL (vacation)
You can manage your list membership,
changing the type of subscription, or setting to receive no mail while on vacation or leave the list. Here's what you need to do
When you joined, you should
have received a welcome email. That email contains a very important
web link. It links to YOUR personal preferences page for
Okay, so you lost that email.
... here is a way to find your Personal Setting
Page (this is easy, but read carefully:)
1. Click on this link,
which will open a new browser window (you can also paste
this link into a new browser window):
You got an error message that "email@example.com" is not a valid
list member. ...
|3. Just go to the URL
window in your browser and change the last part that reads firstname.lastname@example.org to your email address, the one you entered when you subscribed
to the list. Then hit Enter or Return on your keyboard. If it does not work
- try using all lower case letters in your email address.
if I subscribed as email@example.com, I change the URL from
|4. To change any of the
options (including unsubscribing) you need your password. The program will
email it to you with a click of the button! Why so complicated?
Why do I need a password? Well, our homeroast list receives little to no
SPAM and the emails on the list are protected from SPAMMERS by this password
system. If you think this unsubscribe process takes too much time, think
how much time it takes to delete all your SPAM every day! I think the trade-off
is worth it.
|5. Last, and most important, bookmark your personal settings page (i.e. add to favorites) and jot down your password. Then you never have to do this again!!!
New: I Was Booted Off The List !!! ...
- Yes, the list has a real live
admin and we read eveything; yes, we do remind people of the rules; no, we
have never booted a non-obliging poster without their full awareness (and
I think this has happened once in 5 years).
- But ... as of 1/10/04 if
your email address bounces messages back to the list 8 times within one archive
cycle then the address is removed from the list, and you have to re-subscribe.
This might happen if your email box goes over-quota. We previously
had it set just to disable the address to "no mail" but were left
with hundreds of dead addresses in our admin interface.
My Posts Are Not Reaching
the List ...
- The most common cause of BOUNCED
messages (that is, messages not successfully processed by the automated Majordomo
and bounced to me, the list owner) is that the email address YOU subscribed
is somehow slightly different, or perhaps very different, than the one you
are trying to post from. You must subscribe to the list with the same address
you post from.
- The other cause of BOUNCED messages
is the use of certain words in the message that are considered " administrative"
such as :
- get homeroast
- who homeroast
- list homeroast
- which homeroast
- ... and more
- To use these administrative words
in a post AND have it reach the rest of the subscribers, you can misspell
the word ...such as "hey all you svbscribers" with a "v"
instead of a "u".
- I cannot help you with list problems
because I am way way too busy, and will only do so in extreme cases. You need
to learn to "manage your own affairs" in terms of adding or removing
yourself from the list, or figuring out why a message doesn't reach the list.
These skills will be very useful to you in all your future net experiences!
- Filtering Messages: This is an important function to learn ...a way to manage your incoming
email and send it automatically into a folder or mailbox in your email program.
I use Eudora and its called Filters. But the name varies from program to program.
I can't help you set it up but I can tell you this:
- See the + sign at the beginning
of every Subject line in every list email? I put that there so you can
set up a filter to look for a + sign in a message, then send it to the
HomeRoast mailbox or folder you create
Info about List Rules:
*Since we pay for the list, we do
not allow outside commercial posts of any kind. This includes regular emails
with commercial references, URLs, addresses or 800 numbers of products we offer
or like products. That may seem harsh, but think of it this way: the discussion
on the list takes place in our establishment ...it's as if 300 homeroasters
are sitting around a cozy (albeit a very large) table in our shop. It would
be rude to come in our shop, where we work so hard to offer so much, and talk
about the guy down the road who sells xxx for $x.xx! If in doubt, please send
the email with commercial reference to me first (firstname.lastname@example.org)
for approval. Obviously, some commercial references are necessary for constructive
dialogue. But this list IS NOT alt.coffee!!! Paying for the list also insures
that your email address is not exposed to spam-sending folks who buy email lists
from "free" web-based mail list servers.
We reserve the right to post notices
about new green coffees arriving and other coffee merchandise periodically.
Those familiar with us know that we are extremely "low-key" in our
commercial post, and feel that our approach is not blatant, obtrusive ...and
are actually quite informative. Nobody is ever under any obligation to buy from
us, and you will never receive a direct email or other uninvited solicitation
It's always a good idea
to look over the archives when you join a list, or want to look up a topic that has been discussed in
length (or ad nauseum as the case may be). It covers the topics we have already
been over so you won't raise the same old boring issue, or will be able to put
a fresh spin on old material. Please visit this web page to view archives (your
list password is required):